Hello,My wife and I are planning to do this run the first weekend of May, 2023 We have an overnight campsite permit at Fault line 1 My question: Is it safe to do right now 6400 cfs even with lifetime kayaks which are only rated for class I and class II Also, the snofloorg website says that this river is safely runnable from 1000-5000 cfs, What's up with that I just want to be sure that we will be safe with all that overnight gear on a lifetime kayak Thanks Adam

We found a very slick sneak route which avoids the long approach from the Chuckwalla Trailhead and appears to be entirely on state park land avoiding any private land and connects to the Gila trail It is not an official trail but there were many footprints along social trails It is possible to stay on the social trails and have minimal impact but it's not officially sanctioned by anyone The distance from car to Rap 1 is almost exactly 1 mile with minimal elevation gain I'm happy to share the kmz/gpx file of our...

Love love love this website & wanted to share some recommendations and details from my trip 9/28-9/30 to hopefully help someone! My boyfriend and I did the Labyrinth Canyon float in a canoe in 3 days and 2 nights We put in at Ruby Ranch on Thursday 9/28 around 10am and took out at Mineral Bottom on Saturday 9/30 around 5pm The CFS was about 3,000 We finished the float faster than we had anticipated because the weather showed 20mph winds and potential rain on Saturday and Sunday On Thursday we were on the river for ...

I was the one who posted the trip report below that included the DD float and think I'm probably only qualified to answer question # 2 We got lucky last May The Devil rose about 100 cfs a few days before our adventure My best guess was that it was flowing at 175 cfs on 5/18/23 Plenty of water and very little bottom scraping but still a very slow float I believe it took us about 45 hrs to travel 7 river miles but that was very inner tubes, no paddles I wouldn't float it below 100 cfs Give yourself lots of time The v...

Cold start with a dusting of snow and ice A few pools here and there, but we kept our feet dry with minimal effort We really enjoyed the canyon and found it very beautiful The rappels are short and easy on the way down, but ascending is always a workout Climbing back up the numerous down climbs is fun but tiring There were three of us on this outing and we usually finish canyons in the lower time estimates provided on this website However descending the 5 rappels and walking another mile down canyon took us 35 hou...

1st rap is currently a solid deadman so can be done with less rope and webbingOf note, tried to donate to RTR, but website seems to freeze when donation link is clicked on

Thanks! I really appreciate your website, this thing is sick!

Updated thanks I wonder if that is new in recent years, They didn't have any information about summer closures when I visited, but now do on their website

You might want to be a little more specific about the Rifle Range They don't just shoot at the targets in the designated shooting area They also shoot across the canyon at targets and TVs and other junk against the hill to the southeast I suspect that the Velvet Ridge in that area, which you also recently added to your website by another name, might also not be terribly safe when a group is shooting in that direction You can easily get stranded in Rock Canyon by hiking up when no one is shooting and then hearing th...

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